Soros and Schiavo
"We should consider laws that permit next of kin to decide to forgo life sustaining medical interventions even when a patient's wishes are not known," said George Soros in a speech of November 30, 1994, delivered at Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center.
In that speech, Soros announced the launch of his Project on Death in America, a program designed to steer U.S. medicine toward a rationing system whereby only the fit received proper care, while the unfit – such as Terri Schiavo – were written off and allowed to die. In the same speech, Soros said:
"Can we afford to care for the dying properly? The number of people dying in the United States currently stands at 2.2 million annually. Increases in cancer and AIDS deaths and the aging of the baby boomers will cause this figure to climb faster than the population… The fear is that the dying of the elderly will drain the national treasury. … Aggressive, life-prolonging interventions… are much more expensive than proper care for the dying."Over the next ten years, Soros' Open Society Institute and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation poured $200 million into Project on Death in America.
Remember that it only took $140 million for Soros and his fellow Pewgate conspirators to bamboozle Americans into surrendering their precious right of free political speech, via the McCain-Feingold Act of 2002 (see "Pewgate: The Battle of the Blogosphere.") How much more could they buy with $200 million?
The change in the legal and medical climate which paved the way for Terri Schiavo's bureaucratic murder arose directly from the work of Soros' Project on Death in America.
Saving Social Security – the Hard Way
In the Schiavo case, judges are now setting guidelines that will hold life-and-death significance for each and every one of us. Sooner than we think, we will grow old and feeble, unable to defend ourselves physically. As we lay in our beds, nurses will come bearing syringes. They will put us down like dogs in a veterinarian's office.This is the solution that many among our elites have quietly devised for sparing the U.S. government the financial burden of providing medical entitlements to 76 million aging baby boomers. This is their plan to save the New Deal, the Great Society and the Social Security system.
It would seem that Terri Schiavo had the misfortune to be targeted as a test case for a wide-reaching change in medical policy. That, I believe, is why her would-be killers - those in black robes as well as white ones - run roughshod over the law with such fearless confidence. Powerful forces stand behind them. Hundreds of billions of dollars in future medical entitlements are at stake. And we all know that money talks.
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While Mr. Soros was being whisked away to relative safety in Budapest by no doubt loving parents, Hitler's T-4 Euthanasia Program was expanding to terminate patients diagnosed with "Jewishness."
Mr Poe
Can I ask a serious question on Thanotology and law ?
Is the FLA law a product of an era where marriage was for life. In this era of disposable spouses maybe the time has come to reconsider the role of kin vs spouse. I would feel similarly if the roles were reversed.
Is the issue really the rights of kin vs matrimony ?
The Nazis had system where "That which is not forbidden, is compulsory." It would appear that both Soros and some of the religious right agree that is the proper system.
Soros would compel the elderly and the infirm to die in the name of conserving medical resources while the Religious Right would compel them to keep their bodies alive in the name of God.
Neither would allow the patients to make that decision themselves.
So we have the Social-Nazis battling the Christo-Nazis for the control of life and death.
Perhaps I am wrong, so I have a question for the blog readers:
Do you support the idea that an individual owns his own life and that only he or she should decide when that life should be terminated? Yes or No?
>>Do you support the idea that an individual owns his own life and that only he or she should decide when that life should be terminated? Yes or No?<<
I'm having trouble seeing how someone "of sound mind and body" could issue a declarative statement, vocal or on paper, on the prerequisites of when they should be killed.
I'm also having trouble seeing how someone of "sound mind and body" could carry out such an atrocity.
What really needs to be asked is if Terri Schiavo is being starved to death for her alleged contempt for the dignity of the disabled, or the actual contempt held by her husband.
OK Beamish, thanks.
That's one in the "No" column.
Any other votes?
beakerkin asks: "Is the FLA law a product of an era where marriage was for life. In this era of disposable spouses maybe the time has come to reconsider the role of kin vs spouse."
The law is not to blame in Mrs. Schiavo's case. The problem lies in the fact that those who have power over Mrs. Schiavo's life have flouted and broken the law repeatedly, and the major media have failed to report this fact to the general public.
Consequently, few Americans are aware that Mrs. Schiavo is being killed not in accordance with the law, but in brazen defiance of it.
Mr. Meyer, if you want to argue for the moral equivalence of those who seek to murder Mrs. Schiavo and those who are trying to save her, feel free, but you must do it elsewhere.
I will permit no further posting from you on this thread. Please go.
Bob Meyer:
Take me out of the "no" column. I abstained. No sane person in any sense of the word sanity could answer that question as posed.
I am of the view that no court should ever hear a case in which there is a possible verdict that laws against murder be set aside for a health care facility.
Mr Poe
Would you explain those points you
spoke of earlier ? I do not like the idea of the law deciding quality of life. Are Alzhiemers patients next ?
Is it fair to point out the Holocaust began on the Disabled ?
Is a society judged on how it treats the disabled ? The left have called these straw man arguments.
Welcome to the world that George Soros escaped from as a young child. How ironic that Soros is embracing Nazi ideas.
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Thank you for banning the person who wanted to reduce what is happening to Terri Schiavo to trivial and disgusting debate fodder.
I have been coming more and more to the conclusion that moonbats must be marginalized. Not through law, imprisonment, violence or anything like that. Just socially -- not spoken to, argued with, listened to. Not honouring their foolish and dangerous ideas with a modicum of attention (other than ridicule). This may seem rather drastic, but IMO the ONLY cure for the moonbat disease is metaphysical starvation. (This does not mean they should not be carefully watched.)
When and if moonbats ever find their lost faculty of normal reason, (that is, relinquish the dangerously absurd doctrine of moral relativism) then they should be welcome back with open arms to the debate of ideas within humanity's fold.
But until then, chill.
Snowy:
I usually make Ann Coulter seem polite. That usually works.
;-)
beakerkin asks: "Are Alzheimers patients next?"
No doubt.
"Is it fair to point out the Holocaust began on the disabled?"
Fair? Well, people have their own ideas about what is fair.
The important point is that your statement is true. Anyone who argues that it is unfair to point out the truth is a propagandist or a shill whom you shouldn't be wasting your time talking to anyway.
"Is a society judged on how it treats the disabled?"
Many great civilizations of past ages, such as the Roman and Spartan, had little compassion for the infirm. But I do not think we should seek to emulate such people. Their greatness is better contemplated from a safe distance.
"The left have called these straw man arguments."
They say that because they have no good answer to your point. Look what Mr. Meyer wrote in response to my post. If that's the best riposte the left can offer, they have lost the propaganda war.
Now it's time to move the battle onto other terrain, and begin the long process of rolling back the legal and political ground they have taken from us.
Snowy writes: "Thank you for banning the person who wanted to reduce what is happening to Terri Schiavo to trivial and disgusting debate fodder."
You are most welcome.
I have only just begun to flex my banning muscles here at Moonbat. There is much work to be done.
Speaking of legal grounds, Mr. Poe, can the US Justice Department seize Terri Schiavo's remains as forensic evidence (to prevent their cremation) in a federal Americans with Disabilities Act negligent homicide case?
glen dean writes: "Welcome to the world that George Soros escaped from as a young child. How ironic that Soros is embracing Nazi ideas."
Ironic, but not surprising. Many people respond to oppression by admiring and identifying with their oppressors.
Soros admitted to his biographer Michael T. Kaufman that, after two years of living first under Nazi then Communist occupation, the 16-year-old Soros told his father in 1946, "I'd like to go to Moscow to find out about communism. I mean that's where the power is."
Soros often argues that his experience of living under Nazi and Communist rule "sensitized" him to the danger of totalitarianism, but in fact, his visceral reaction to these experiences appears to have been just the opposite.
It would seem that Soros was attracted, rather than repulsed, by the raw exercise of dictatorial power which he witnessed in his youth.
Mr. Beamish asks: "Speaking of legal grounds, Mr. Poe, can the US Justice Department seize Terri Schiavo's remains as forensic evidence (to prevent their cremation) in a federal Americans with Disabilities Act negligent homicide case?"
They should, but it doesn't appear that they will. In stark contrast to its behavior in the Elian Gonzalez case, the federal government is pretending to be impotent in the face of Judge George Greer's edicts. I don't know why.
Justice in this case will come from the grass roots. The germ of a mass movement has already begun, in the form of FreeRepublic.com's April 7 March for Justice II – a march on Washington against judicial tyranny. Such activities can help build momentum for bringing Mrs. Schiavo's murderers to justice.
In my view, more than sufficient evidence already exists in the public domain to arrest and bring to trial several people involved in the Schiavo case, not only for negligent homicide, but for actual homicide in the first degree.
This too will probably not happen, due to the as-yet unexplained paralysis of state and federal law enforcement agencies having jurisdiction over this case.
Even so, the Schindlers can and should pursue a civil rights suit against Mr. Schiavo - a favorite tactic of the left which we can adopt and turn to good effect.
Such a case will provide an excellent opportunity to subpoena key documents and interrogate the alleged perpetrators under oath.
>Many great civilizations of past ages, such as the Roman and Spartan, had little compassion for the infirm. But I do not think we should seek to emulate such people. Their greatness is better contemplated from a safe distance.
How they treated the disabled and infirm is probably a big factor in why they are PAST civilizations.
Snowy said:
"How they [Ancient Romans and Spartans] treated the disabled and infirm is probably a big factor in why they are PAST civilizations."
Well, that and that they liked to make vital foreign and domestic policy decisions based on what someone torqued out on ergot poisoning saw in the viscera of the deceased.
It troubles me that people would even consider doing this to Alzhiemers patient. My grandmother
suffered from that ailment yet for unkown reasons had moments of lucidity. They were most often at 2AM. I would have been deprived of those last moments by a judge.
It seems to that this case has less to do with George "Truly Pathetic" Soros and more to do with basic greed, judicial ineptitude, and the desire to score some shameful political points from George Bush...all at the expense of a disabled woman.
Beakerkin:
As I watch in disgust while "law enforcement officers" wrestle people to the ground and arresting them for the crime of attempting to take water to a defenseless woman dehydrating to death in a "health care facility," I find myself wondering how far away we are from system-wide 24-hour clockwork atrocities.
In Nazi Germany, it only took them 8 years.
But they were using slower punch-card databases then.
Mr Beamish.
As a Jew I find the whose life is valuable question odious. I prefer not to argue it on those grounds. Poe is correct that it is 100% factual but the left has screamed
foul & strawman.
I would rather kin family and doctors reached a joint choice together . The presumption that a spouse is the sole arbiter is outdated.
I do not like where this has the potential to go. Who decides what life is valuable ? I do draw a distinction between this and cancer patints who suffer and seek relief. There is zero evidence that this woman is suffering.
That being said if it were me I wouldn't want to live that way. However the rights of her family are paramount. Their rights should be respected.
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